3DVIA - Model Comments on German Flak Cannon 38

alfredix made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-12T07:43:30+02:00

nice model smike. there is only one thing I noticed. You are using a 20mm canon for this. As you can see in the wiki article the cannon for 105mm looks quite different. Is there a reason for that change? I think it is quite a good mix, to put a WW2 canon on a 21st centruy boat. We'll see if it can handle the fast planes from today ;)

sady2 made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-12T11:10:32+02:00

since this has 1.5mb by itself,how you managed to place so many on 'USS smikorsky'? or just in 3ds they are bigger?

smike made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-12T13:09:17+02:00

i made it after pictures found on thias site http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/prodd.asp?pid=DRA6288 there is one more model on the site which i used as referance.. not after any specific size.. and sady this is not the same as i used in the uss smikorsky model..

sady2 made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-12T13:33:43+02:00

ooooh! now is all clever

dswavely made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-16T16:08:50+02:00

Very nice smike (glad your back from your work!). I'm kinda' surprised that we don't have more artillery pieces here on 3DVIA. The Aberdeen Proving Grounds ( http://www.ordmusfound.org/ ) is a must see stop for anyone in the Maryland, US area. The variety of artillery and tanks is just stunning. Also make sure that you stop in for a meal at the diner on the main street of Aberdeen. Great food, friendly service and a real treat. (No, I don't have any connection what-so-ever with the diner. I just really like good food and good people!)

alfredix made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-12T17:09:47+02:00

the picture you referenced is a model of a 2cm Flak 38. that's what I alerady thought, when I saw your model. your model is a 2cm Flak not a 10.5 like it says in your Wiki link. Cannon and armor are totally different for those two types.

smike made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-16T15:07:05+02:00

you are right alfredix its the 2cm version not the 10.5 cm. how on earth can you see that i had not thought about if it was 2cm or 10.5 i just made it after the pictures.. but i searched for the info i used as fefreance on it and you where right.. how could you see that on the cannon i cant see any differences comparing the 2cm with the 10.5 cm cannon.. you must have a lot of brain storage of weapons info.. but okay the cannon i am working on now i am completly aware of the ammo size. 800 mm flak cannon "dora" (wow one granate could level a hole city.. but okay it took 25 minnuttes to reload it.

smike made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-16T15:10:02+02:00

oh yes also you dswavely how could you see it was a 20mm cannon..?????????

dswavely made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-16T16:10:14+02:00

smike - you give me too much credit - I had no clue what size it is - I believed you! :D

dswavely made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-26T15:08:31+02:00

Congratulations smike! Your model has been included in the 32nd weekly Top 10 models blog with pictures and links to your model. Go to http://www.3dvia.com/blog/3dvia-top-10-models-032/ to check it out!

sandman14 made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-27T02:24:36+02:00

Incredible work smike!

alfredix made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-27T08:06:44+02:00

Hi Smike, I know a little about WW II equipement and weapons... The rest does Wiki for me. referrring to your coming model of "DORA". It is NOT a Flak. It was used to attack huge areal targets as you can read in Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerer_Gustav Btw: A Flak is the German shortcut for "Flieger-Abwehr-Kanone", which means basically "Anti-Air-Canon". You would not use a 800m gun for that purpose...

smike made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-27T17:29:16+02:00

sorry alfredix if i has written the dora as a flak cannon i know its not that..

sandman14 made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-27T17:49:19+02:00

wasn't one nicknamed "Big Bertha"?.. I think they had to use train tracks to move it around!

smike made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-27T18:01:34+02:00

yes there was "big bertha was placed in france as one of the defence weapons" and just like "Dora" and "gustav" she was running on rail tracks.. and not just 2 rails like a standard train but actually it used 4 rails to move on. after a lot of study of these cannons i can tell you they where gigantisk huge monsters.. the "dora" used 5.000 men to operate. it took 100 men to reload it using 25 minnuttes before it was ready to shoot again.. mainly because the huge granates was moved by hand power with only one hoist used to move the granate cart elevator..

alfredix made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-27T18:43:10+02:00

Hey everybody, there were two versions of "Big Berta": one was transported on rails, the other was towed by trucks (devided in 4 pieces). When assembled, Big Berta stood on wheels, just like an other howitzer. Here are some information about Berta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bertha_(howitzer) It was Dora who used 4 rails, but only when assembled in shooting position. The transport took place on "standard" trains, using 2 rails. Therefore they used 4 - 5 construction trains to transport all parts of Dora and any kind of support equipment and reailway parts. In shooting position, everything was assembled Real Railway Guns, made by the "Wehrmacht" are mentioned in that Wiki Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_gun A really nice example is that one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl-Ger%C3%A4t It is called Karl Gerät". Basically a Tank with a 60cm Howitzer. It was transported on heavy load trailers on the road. or with special railway wagons.

sandman14 made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-27T19:29:34+02:00

Nice Alfred!... But didn't they all pale in comparison to the Paris Gun? http://warandgame.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/berthasd.jpg ...You know that's a big barrel when you need bridge cable supports for it. :D

alfredix made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-27T19:38:35+02:00

that's right shannon. Pretty cool. I never saw this picture. Great

dswavely made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-28T13:58:22+02:00

Great discussion and new sources to be reviewed! One of my sons and I went to the Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Aberdeen, Maryland, for his 18th birthday and you can get a farily complete history of stationary and mobile artillery there! Now the public part is called the United States Army Ordnance Museum - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Ordnance_Museum - and they do have the Krup K5 Railway Gun named "Leopold". It is big and impressive. There is a US Atomic Cannon right across the street too. The place will overload your brain in a few hours!!

smike made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-28T21:21:38+02:00

wow they got many weapons and in real size version.. they must be having a large area to do that.. great place but a little to far away from me.. and i am not aluded to enter the USA they wont let me in.. (got several drug sentences in my youth)

alfredix made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-28T21:49:05+02:00

@Don: Great source you provided. I think that musum is a place where you can spent lots of time to get ideas and inspiration.

smike made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-28T21:59:38+02:00

yes i would love to spend some days there it looks better than the british war museum in london which i have visited many many times since i was 10 years old..

dswavely made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-29T19:02:15+02:00

It is a great place to see so many pieces that aren't available anywhere else. Unfortunately, they are privately funded, so many of their treasures are sitting out in a giant (really giant) field and rusting into oblivion. They are doing all that they can to preserve them, but it is an expensive job. I've got about a hundred pictures or more if anyone ever needs them.

dswavely made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-29T19:03:24+02:00

If I was smart, I would just put them in my Flickr account and send you the link - I'll have to work on that...

alfredix made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-29T20:22:06+02:00

Don it would be great to see your pictures, if it is not too much work to put them on Flickr. I think they would be a great source.

dswavely made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-29T21:00:04+02:00

I'll let you know when I get it done - just don't hold your breath while you're waiting :D

alfredix made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-29T21:33:06+02:00

thanks Don :)

dswavely made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-06-29T22:18:12+02:00

You're welcome, of course!

dswavely made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-07-06T21:01:50+02:00

For anyone who is interested in my pictures at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds, just go here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/21140494@N03/sets/72157620908447600/ It's 170 photos, so be prepared!

dmitryn made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-08-11T17:55:33+02:00

Ohh Is Very Good

ruslan547 made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-08-24T06:13:27+02:00

nice man! this should be used in games! like call of duty etc.

vitamind made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-09-04T08:12:44+02:00

wow

GeraldGuyomard made a comment on German Flak Cannon 38

2009-11-03T15:35:05+01:00

Well done