Editing a published model

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  1. karm

    new member
    Joined: May '13
    Posts: 5

    How hard can this be? I published a model (could not save as 'draft' because a draft model does not preserve custom textures... bug?). Now I can only insert the entire model in a new drawing. How do I just edit the model in SHAPE?

    If I start from the web page ("my 3d content") and click on it, SHAPE opens up and inserts the model... but still as a single object. I need to edit the published model. Starting from the SHAPE UI, I can find the model, but still only insert as a single object. Ugh.

    Oh, and why can I not get "my 3d content" list while in SHAPE... why do I have to go to a browser window or remember the tags/names I used a month ago?

    This is a really nice application that is badly flawed in its concepts of persistence and "online" operation...

    Posted 10 months ago #
  2. dswavely

    Community Manager
    Joined: Jun '07
    Posts: 148

    First, two questions: are you using a Mac? what browser are you using?

    Now, on to what you really want:

    When you are on your model page, click on "Edit>Open in 3DVIA Shape. This should allow you to edit your entire model. If it does not give you that option then it probably isn't your model. Check to make sure that the person logged in is still you - in the top right corner you should see your "username | Support | Sign out" We are experiencing a weird bug where suddenly we are logged in as someone else. It is being worked on.

    Many of the things that are frustrating you are bugging us too! I use Shape A LOT and i get extremely frustrated at times. It has not been updated in well over a year and was never intended to be anything other than a web-based program, so the work flow does get awkward at times.

    We are glad that you like the application and are sorry that the problems are making it hard to enjoy. We do keep pushing for improvements and voices like yours help us in that effort.

    Keep telling us where the problems are - please.

    Don

    Posted 10 months ago #
  3. karm

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    Joined: May '13
    Posts: 5

    OK, seems to work now. Maybe the web page had logged me out without noticing.

    Another big flaw in how this thing stores models: I built a model and published as "Model 1". Then I made some changes to make a similar object, and published "Model 2". More change, and published "Model 3". Silly me, I expected to find 3 models in "my 3d content". Nope. Only the last one, "Model 3". AAARRRGGG! You have got to be kidding me!

    I get it, the NAME is just a tag on the model... not it's storage key. So the same model will always overwrite when published no matter the name. 100% non-intuitive. Might make sense for a PLM system (Dassault), but totally wrong for a consumer product like this...

    So my question: how do I create 3 variations on a design and store them as 3 separate models? I refuse to recreate each one from scratch, they are nearly identical.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  4. karm

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    Joined: May '13
    Posts: 5

    Oh, I see, there is a PUBLISH and PUBLISH-AS button in the publication dialog. I cannot think of why that is necessary, if the user changes the name, publish a new model, otherwise replace. Rename should be a separate operation (not part of SAVE or SAVE-AS). Oh well, it was only about 2 hours of work lost...

    Posted 10 months ago #
  5. jdelrio

    Community Manager
    Joined: Apr '08
    Posts: 1,608

    We have given the developers feedback on the Publish / Save options before, but I will forward this on to them for their consideration.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  6. dswavely

    Community Manager
    Joined: Jun '07
    Posts: 148

    Best Answer

    I'm glad that at least part of your aggravation was alleviated. If you work for a long time in Shape without saving a draft or publishing your model again, you can be logged out unexpectedly. It used to happen to me all the time. Then I learned that (just as in most programs) the Save function serves the useful purpose of creating a copy of your recent work on your hard drive.

    If you crash you should be able to open Shape and it should give you the option to open the automatically saved draft. If you say "No", then your work will indeed be lost.

    If it gives you an unexpected error when you do publish then manually use the "Save" to create a copy, then close Shape, re-open it and you should have your saved copy available.

    The "Publish As" is very useful, since it allows you to create new versions of a model. Changing the name does not create a new model - you must use "Publish As". Shape will also create multiple models with the same name. You can change the name of the model right right on the model page - just click the name and you can change it there or you can "Edit>Edit Attributes" and change it there.

    To create your multiple, but nearly identical models, open the first model, make your changes, then use "Publish As". To make a second variation open the original, make your changes and use "Publish As" again.

    Shape does do things a little differently, but I find that to be true of most programs. Switching back and forth from program to program as often as I do reminds me of this regularly. I hope you have better results as you work with the quirks.

    Don

    Posted 10 months ago #

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