#bobsmith
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3D PrintScreen lets you capture OpenGL data and export as 3D XML
3D PrintScreen can capture 3D data coming from any application based on OpenGL API. The 3D scene of your application is saved in the open file format 3D XML from Dassault Systemes, and can be opened in the 3D XML Player. Both 3D PrintScreen and the 3D XML Player are free. 3D PrintScreen is as simple to use as classical print screen.
http://www.3ds.com/products-solutions/3 ... intscreen/
#kmemarzia
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Have you used it? If so what were the results like?
didnt somebody pposted a link to some driver or lib, that does this too? Is it a new development or based upon that?
p.s.
a) the 3D XML player says my browser doesnt support activeX. Thats strange. I know that there is only a player for Ie but this message surprises me.
b) first thing the printscreen tool did, after installation, was to crash. Restarting the app worked tough
#bobsmith
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It is a new developpement. Yes it is not the first product/software which is able to capture 3D.
The main difference is that it generated 3D XML files as it is a DS product.
ok. 
For what is DS aiming to use this?
#chris
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There is certainly nothing wrong with your memory Dom >
http://www.theswapmeet-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=23271
I used it ones to extract the complete 3d model of New York city from Google Earth.
Not really sure what this all means for credits and all. Is there a way to protect your artwork from being 'grapped'
Being paranoid, I first ran virtools and made a 3d printscreen of the content.
The result was that geometry was captured (though that time I didn't get any texture).
Then I tried a the MRT demo and the head wasn't in the 3dxml file.
So paranoid people, you'd better start using shaders if you want to keep your content to yourself....
That is, against this product.
There's also [url=http://www.deep-shadows.com/hax/3DRipperDX.htm:33z2ssh1]3D Ripper DX[/url:33z2ssh1], that one does directx scenes with shaders up to shader model 2.0
Actually I'm a tad suprised that a big company like dassault is stepping into this copyright-wise slippery teritory.
Here I just did a quick text with 3D Ripper DX.
Do you wanna play TRACKMANIA NATIONS in virtools 
?
Also Got the textures & all the rest of the visible modelling which are really nice BTW.
For info : World polycount > 100K / Car polycount 50K
AleX
#chris
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so what you're saying is that in theory it is possible to make an exact duplicate (3dobjects and textures (even hidden objects?) of any OpenGL/DirectX game environment inside virtools. Sweet
PS: did you tried a model with shaders, like the head demo cmo with this 3d Ripper DX program?
PPS: I see a huge opportunity for the black market, ripping 3d models and selling them as genuine.
[quote="chris":37fb1di1]
PPS: I see a huge opportunity for the black market, ripping 3d models and selling them as genuine.[/quote:37fb1di1]
Logicaly, all the shaders are in ASM format so it is not really easy to reuse them.
I'm also really worried about the ripping process for non legal use...
PS : btw it is really interesting for reverse-engineering on game
#kmemarzia
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Wow, that's really cool! mmm I mean scary.
What about animations? I suspect you can't just rip the animations right, unless you capture the 3d every frame and then do a mesh morph.
This is terrible news for the 3d modellers, it's almost what MP3's have done for music, although not exactly the same!
#michael adrian
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Hi all!
Did anyone manage to load the 3DXML files into DEV? I failed doing so with Virtools 3.5 
Regards,
Michael
#pleaser
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All your model are belong to us 
Concerning the 3DXML Printscreen, the 3DXML generated file canno't be imported in DEV3.5.
It is supposed to work with DEV4.0. Not tested yet.
It's not so scary in fact.
The captured model still has a lot of problem :
No object/material Naming,
No hierarchy,
No LOD captured,
No Collision/Physik Mesh captured,
No animations,
No HLSL Shader,
...
But for example you can manage to use the Trackmania car with a Physic Car BB, their track & your own shader with their textures. I'll give a try and [b:3pt2twxl][u:3pt2twxl]not[/u:3pt2twxl][/b:3pt2twxl] post the result here because of copyright issues Maybe some screenshots
[quote="pleaser":1qo2du82]All your model are belong to us [/quote:1qo2du82]
#michael adrian
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Thanks Alex. Will give it a try as soon as I have 4.0 on my machine.
Michael
#michael adrian
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Hmmm ... this might be a reason why Dassault is doing it:
[url:3lnmujbh]http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/332661.html[/url:3lnmujbh]
If Acrobat 3D capture does all the apps Adobe announced on this website, Dassault still has a way to go. I tried 3D printscreen with AutoCAD and MicroStation without success.
Michael
[quote="Michael Adrian":lnqhjuoe]Hmmm ... this might be a reason why Dassault is doing it:
[url:lnqhjuoe]http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/332661.html[/url:lnqhjuoe]
If Acrobat 3D capture does all the apps Adobe announced on this website, Dassault still has a way to go. I tried 3D printscreen with AutoCAD and MicroStation without success.
Michael[/quote:lnqhjuoe]
interesting!
thanks for the heads-up bobsmith and Michael Adrian
#kmemarzia
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Okay so 3D Ripper works with Virtools too, here s a little 'grab' from TinToys from the Virtools website (just for experimentation) but who knows its all out there to be grabbed!
-Everything is a little skewed though, i think maybe i didn't have my camera matching..
#g.paganini
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please help....... i have no luck in extracting car geometry from trackmanaia nations with 3d ripper dx..... it only extracts the stadium enviroment geometry,,, i mean everything except the car , i actualy need.
As i see , AlexTacTac , did it with no problem.... so if anybody can tell me where am i doing wrong... or if Alex himself could tip me i would be grateful 
#g.paganini
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nononono its not that i promisse.... im a huge trackmania addict and not a 3d modeler, i tryed to work a little bit with 3ds max, and actualy am a violin player at the national opera house... )) who would believe that...
the only thing i would like is to edit the car a little bit to make it nice for our TM clan...... its only that....... i make living from music, not stealing others models...... so im sorry if i made the wrong impression.......
hi,
some results of testing 3DVIA Printscreen 2.2
tested with Collin MC Rae Dirt
you must hit F10 directly on start of the race, 2 sec later it crashes.
you get, all diffuse textures (60 HQ tilebale Textures) of the scene, naturally no bump maps or spec maps because one material is captured only with one texture,
98% of geometry is not usable but you can see how Codemasters build up an environment, especially how they manage sky rendering
tested with some Virtools Scenes in LifePlayer
you get only geometry with material and texture that is not clipped or what is in your viewing frustrum,
when you switch the player to Software Rendering, clipping is not done, you get the complete scene, all geometries with material and one texture
what says the Copyright to that?
take a look at
probably Licensing is comperable with Napster, YouTube and EMULE Paradigm?
that means for the Future we get games with more 3D Objects, probably you will find some Crysis Charakters as Spectators on a Race Track from
Collin MCRae 6 .-), at the moment it is a big ressource for high optimized textures
#renmiri
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Someone posted lara croft at 3dvia.com I'm betting it wasn't home made
The irony is that 3dvia.com doesn't accept any of the 3d xml models I exported from virtools, but takes all that I did with 3D Printscreen. Weird!
#koichisenada
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Virtools still outputs 3DXML files whose content is damaged sometimes.
Try 3DXML Player and it's clear. For example, when exporting a single object from a level, where it's the only object, 3DXML file contains one node with two representations, first one is BEHAVIORAL and the second one is TESSELLATED. If there was only TESSELLATED one, then 3DXML would be running properly.
By the way, I haven't managed to get Crysis Demo running to get captured by Printscreen.
Some ugly stretched geometries and edges, but nothing usable...
I've heard Crysis is heavy loaded with shaders. For example, cutting trees and shaking leafs was made with vertex shaders, AFAIK...
My printscreen crashes google earth everytime i try. Has this recently been blocked?
@dewrob, no it's not blocked, but I had problems with Google Earth too. Try switching to the OpenGL mode in Google Earth settings before capturing, it worked for me.
Where has the "PrintScreen" application moved to?
Where can I find it now?
What happened?
3DVIA Printscreen was discontinued a couple of years ago, and was recently removed from the 3ds.com site.
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